And to anyone about to throw a Bible at me, this country's founders were very wise, and though they were Christian they founded this country as a free society, with separation of church and state. In this country we are free to believe and worship however we choose. It's one of the things that makes this country great. So even if you don't agree with gay marriage because of Biblical reasons, that is not a valid argument against a constitutional law. From a Biblical standpoint, Jesus loves all of us. In the Bible He congregated with the prostitutes, the lepers, those shunned by society, and even gays. You perceive their lifestyle as a sin, but we are all sinners. Who is to say whose sin is worse in the eyes of God? You? Jesus teaches us tolerance and love. Jesus teaches us not to judge.
I respect your opinion and I'm thankful to live in a place where you can express it freely.
So true, AND isn't divorce "wrong" in the Christian religion and we don't make that illegal! I vote if we are making laws based upon religion we shouldn't be selective to only certain rules. Everyone should be able to marry the person they love!!
I agree that it doesn't threaten my marriage, but I do believe it threatens my family. I don't feel comfortable with my children being taught something in school that I don't believe is right from a moral standpoint. And I definitely agree that Jesus loves all of us, and that we are all sinners, and that is the great thing about His love, is that it is infinate and eternal. But while He loves us, and we will never do anything wrong enough to change that, He has commanded us to follow Him and His teachings. He does not hate the sinner, but hates the sin. I'm not saying any sin is worse that another; He hates all sins and has commanded all of us to be perfect in Him. So while I agree with you in one standpoint, I think it is bigger than just threatening my marriage. When it is pushed on me and my family, and when I am told I am intolerant because of my beliefs, I don't think that's ok.
PS I'm not the same anonymous as above, and I'm not ashamed of my beliefs - I only chose to be anonymous because I'm sure there are people who won't agree with me and I don't want to get a bunch of hate comments on my blog. I love your blog and won't stop reading just because of differences in opinion. Like you said, our country's founders were great and being able to decide for ourselves what we believe is what makes it great!
I think we agree on a lot! I guess what it comes down to is your definition of intolerance. I don't see how letting gays get married is pushing anything on your family. It is just allowing them to have the same decision making and life planning rights under the law. They would have access to health insurance and their children would be protected.
Gay people are going to exist and whether or not they are allowed to marry they will have relationships and children and build lives together. All they are asking for is the same rights as anyone else who builds a life with someone else.
Thank you for expressing your opinion, and thank you for being mature about it (whereas others have not and had to be deleted due to hate speech.)
I don't know what those who have been deleted have said, or if you will delete this post too, but I just want you to know that first, I loved your most recent post about not judging other sand I try to live my life like that daily. I don't judge others because of their beliefs and decisions and I think we are lucky to live in a place where we have freedom from choice. But lets not forget whose plan of happiness gave us these choices in the first place. God gave us choices and agency so that we could live and learn for ourselves and eventually return to him and live in happiness.
Here is a link to one of the most sacred documents of my faith that explains a little more about why marriage (between man and woman) and the families created from that bond are essential:http://www.lds.org/Static%20Files/PDF/Manuals/TheFamily_AProclamationToTheWorld_35538_eng.pdf
I don't know if you will take the time to read this or not, but I believe in families. In families that can experience true joy and happiness by following and keeping the commandments of God.
I don't have a problem with gay couples getting the same legal privileges as married couples. I think they should. I DO have a problem with any legislation that proclaims that my belief system is morally wrong. My belief system says that sex between same gender couples is a sin. If the law of the land makes it not a sin, will I become an outlaw or deviant? Will I be forced eventually to admit that my beliefs are wrong? Will the church I attend eventually be forced by law to perform such marriages? Isn't that also against our freedom of religion?
I wish that there wasn't so much anger on both sides of this debate. I wish that the title of "civil union" would be good enough, so that something that is very sacred to me--marriage--wouldn't be redefined into something it isn't.
I am also publishing anonymously, because I also would like to avoid any anger from those who disagree with me. It was difficult enough to write this, but I feel that perhaps you, Alida, would understand a little better why we who are against this feel that we need to stand up for this. It's about things that we hold sacred and our freedom to worship.
*i am only anonymous because i have NO clue what my log in information is on google :) this is my first time to your blog and this photo won my subscription to follow your blog! wish i could link this picture to my facebook as well : )
i agree! and love this post!
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ReplyDeleteit threatens mine
ReplyDeletePlease, "Anonymous," elaborate. HOW does it threaten your marriage? How will it affect your marriage in any way?
DeleteAnd to anyone about to throw a Bible at me, this country's founders were very wise, and though they were Christian they founded this country as a free society, with separation of church and state. In this country we are free to believe and worship however we choose. It's one of the things that makes this country great. So even if you don't agree with gay marriage because of Biblical reasons, that is not a valid argument against a constitutional law. From a Biblical standpoint, Jesus loves all of us. In the Bible He congregated with the prostitutes, the lepers, those shunned by society, and even gays. You perceive their lifestyle as a sin, but we are all sinners. Who is to say whose sin is worse in the eyes of God? You? Jesus teaches us tolerance and love. Jesus teaches us not to judge.
ReplyDeleteI respect your opinion and I'm thankful to live in a place where you can express it freely.
So true, AND isn't divorce "wrong" in the Christian religion and we don't make that illegal! I vote if we are making laws based upon religion we shouldn't be selective to only certain rules. Everyone should be able to marry the person they love!!
ReplyDeleteLove this post!
ReplyDeleteI agree that it doesn't threaten my marriage, but I do believe it threatens my family. I don't feel comfortable with my children being taught something in school that I don't believe is right from a moral standpoint. And I definitely agree that Jesus loves all of us, and that we are all sinners, and that is the great thing about His love, is that it is infinate and eternal. But while He loves us, and we will never do anything wrong enough to change that, He has commanded us to follow Him and His teachings. He does not hate the sinner, but hates the sin. I'm not saying any sin is worse that another; He hates all sins and has commanded all of us to be perfect in Him. So while I agree with you in one standpoint, I think it is bigger than just threatening my marriage. When it is pushed on me and my family, and when I am told I am intolerant because of my beliefs, I don't think that's ok.
ReplyDeletePS I'm not the same anonymous as above, and I'm not ashamed of my beliefs - I only chose to be anonymous because I'm sure there are people who won't agree with me and I don't want to get a bunch of hate comments on my blog. I love your blog and won't stop reading just because of differences in opinion. Like you said, our country's founders were great and being able to decide for ourselves what we believe is what makes it great!
I think we agree on a lot! I guess what it comes down to is your definition of intolerance. I don't see how letting gays get married is pushing anything on your family. It is just allowing them to have the same decision making and life planning rights under the law. They would have access to health insurance and their children would be protected.
DeleteGay people are going to exist and whether or not they are allowed to marry they will have relationships and children and build lives together. All they are asking for is the same rights as anyone else who builds a life with someone else.
Thank you for expressing your opinion, and thank you for being mature about it (whereas others have not and had to be deleted due to hate speech.)
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I don't know what those who have been deleted have said, or if you will delete this post too, but I just want you to know that first, I loved your most recent post about not judging other sand I try to live my life like that daily. I don't judge others because of their beliefs and decisions and I think we are lucky to live in a place where we have freedom from choice. But lets not forget whose plan of happiness gave us these choices in the first place. God gave us choices and agency so that we could live and learn for ourselves and eventually return to him and live in happiness.
ReplyDeleteHere is a link to one of the most sacred documents of my faith that explains a little more about why marriage (between man and woman) and the families created from that bond are essential:http://www.lds.org/Static%20Files/PDF/Manuals/TheFamily_AProclamationToTheWorld_35538_eng.pdf
I don't know if you will take the time to read this or not, but I believe in families. In families that can experience true joy and happiness by following and keeping the commandments of God.
I don't have a problem with gay couples getting the same legal privileges as married couples. I think they should. I DO have a problem with any legislation that proclaims that my belief system is morally wrong. My belief system says that sex between same gender couples is a sin. If the law of the land makes it not a sin, will I become an outlaw or deviant? Will I be forced eventually to admit that my beliefs are wrong? Will the church I attend eventually be forced by law to perform such marriages? Isn't that also against our freedom of religion?
ReplyDeleteI wish that there wasn't so much anger on both sides of this debate. I wish that the title of "civil union" would be good enough, so that something that is very sacred to me--marriage--wouldn't be redefined into something it isn't.
I am also publishing anonymously, because I also would like to avoid any anger from those who disagree with me. It was difficult enough to write this, but I feel that perhaps you, Alida, would understand a little better why we who are against this feel that we need to stand up for this. It's about things that we hold sacred and our freedom to worship.
http://blog.speakupmovement.org/university/uncategorized/i-was-wrong-about-marriage/
ReplyDelete*i am only anonymous because i have NO clue what my log in information is on google :) this is my first time to your blog and this photo won my subscription to follow your blog! wish i could link this picture to my facebook as well : )
ReplyDeleteGreat picture! It doesn't threaten mine, either.
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